In the case of 2020, it’s all relative. Connect your Tacx Smart trainer to the Tacx Desktop app and the world will be your playground! People being locked at home is finally getting real riders onto the platform, which may be the catalyst it needs. Is that going to give us a ‘matrix’? Hi Ray They also throw down challenges to force you to go “Full Gas” and not let up until the next Sufferlandria segment which is coming at you like a title wave. The only issue I have is with the Augmented…the cartoon rider goes at FTP pace…I do not always want to ride that hard. We need to look at our desires and needs, compare those to the available options, and pick the one that seems to meet those best. But it doesn’t have to be an expensive one. Hello just a question and for the magene t300 what is expected?? Amazing write up as always. I wonder if some consolidation in the market would help bring about fewer yet more complete (i.e. You da man. Am I misunderstanding the question? Both Kinomap and Rouvy have easy-upload options. Though, I’m not sure if there’s a time limit there. Once you’ve picked a route, you’ll go ahead and be able to start it, joining others on the platform. I have to replace mine every couple of year – usually right after the first battery dies. Thank, smart tv combination/pairing with mac/ios/android: I appreciate it! Smart trainers, power meters, speed sensors, cadence sensors, and HR monitors. You can actually use it entirely online with a simple browser. Re: Tacx Cycling app Message non lu par Fab74ch » 13 déc. I use the term game, because Zwift does as well. We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. You can track the performance of Tacx Desktop app every hour of every day across different countries, categories and … Whereas collections are more like a playlist of classes that are popular or themed in a specific way. Again, to each their own. But if you know a better way, please share! The app is available for iOS (iPhone or iPad), Android (phone or tablet), Amazon Fire (TV or tablet), and web. If you are are you tracking how Whoop thinks you are recovered vs other HRV devices/apps like Body Battery in garmin devices and hrv4training? You can also pair a heart rate or cadence sensor too: Once in the workout you’ll see the leaderboard to the right, as well as any high-fives from others. Thanks for writing this up, Ray. We have a huge catalog of user-made pre-built workouts on Rouvy, even more than the number of AR/VR routes! 10-30% off Tacx Items + Free Shipping w/ Amazon Prime: 30% OFF: 20 Dec: Tacx products for sale | Up to 10% Off + Free Shipping: 10% OFF: 09 Dec: Trainer selector low price from €249: FROM €249: 28 Apr: NEO 2T Smart just €1299 is valid now: SALE: 01 Mar: Boost for only €249: SALE: 04 Mar I’ve just started getting into this using an elite RealMuin trainer. I’ve tried several over the years but I’ve come back to The Sufferfest and FulGaz. It’s no longer a difficult thing to get your favorites at lower prices. This is due to the decision to make the event available only to direct drive trainers that have approved power protocols. So in efforts to combat the amount of emails I need to sort through on a daily basis, I’ve complied this “My Photography Gear” post for your curious minds! In any event, here’s the main homepage of the Bkool Indoor app: At first glance you might assume it’s all videos, but in reality, each one of these videos is actually a threesome: It’s a video, a 3D representation of the world (à la Zwift), and then a map-view of the world. But it also feels a bit unfinished. Having tested out a few locations, I soon found that I wasn’t inclined to try out more, especially as the price of full access to the app is £9.99 a month. The team there is like a Tinder power user for connected fitness equipment, if they can hook-up with it, they will. Then a last one: it looks like most sync to Strava, is there any differences on how these show up in Strava? If you’re trying to decide which unit to buy – check out my in-depth reviews section. Out of these, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. I go into training mode and I cannot adjust the reality level in in-ride setting. Despite Bkool saying Slope Reduction should not be used (and HTFU instead), in my experience, it is simply not realistic when going up a 5% climb that feels like 10% or more. For example, the VO2max rouvy guide, erg mode is always sending me across 130-140% of ftp, which for me represents 60+ watts, instead of the 120%, then it comes back a bit bellow 120% and goes back up again… a true leg breaker, and I found it impossible to accomplish the workout…. DCR — I think you should use your giveaway lottery posts as an opportunity to ask a survey question. Profitez d’une filmothèque comportant des vidéos d’entraînement de qualité supérieure, de programmes d’entraînement structurés, d’entraînements GPS, d’outils d’analyse et de partage de données, et défiez et suivez vos amis. And if you like the Tacx Training App, then you’ll probably like FulGaz. – Zwift. It’s as simple as that. So rather than use FTP to ‘guess’ what an athlete is capable of, SUF actually knows what you can do and sets targets accordingly and far more accurately. But if you were using a setup like mine, with a wheel-on tacx vortex and vector 3 pedals, would you still disable it? More on that here: link to thesufferfest.com In the Tacx Training App, did you ever get the GPS rides with 3D rendering to work (except on desktop)? I assume you skipped them since they aren’t part of the app? So just over 200 per day. Aside from Zwift and Peloton, there’s no other platform that comes even remotely close to the live user numbers you see here. Is it only me? Something simple such as a single question with canned answers to pick from. Everyone likes to see all their numbers go up, but that’s not practical. Once you pick a course you’ll see the course profile and a few tidbits. The Peloton IOS app has a class preload feature for times when you may have no internet access. If you’re looking for big screen beauty – this is it.”, “VeloReality app is all about amazingly high quality video footage of incredible routes around the world. Seems like they would have put out an Android app by now. It shares the chrome web browser but not the mac desktop. I personally run it almost exclusively on Apple TV. :)]. Still, like the Peloton Bike, a lot of people that haven’t ever used Peloton tend to misunderstand it. Many of the recent nights I logged in, a number of the live events had 100+ people in them (though, Bkool says the app might struggle at over 100 people in a given race). Sometimes it sees it under the sensor selection, but mostly not. When searching, I see others have had issues with “lost rides”. By default, it’ll start in the 3D Terrain view, but you can change that (both the default, and the current view): If you want to change to either the video view or the map view, simply swipe across the screen: Back in the video view, the replay of the video will match your speed. The problem is, the software doesn’t have the community that is present on Zwift. That takes a lot of overhead. Enjoy, and thanks for stopping by! To that end, what I like personally isn’t super important. In this case if you’ve the ticking sound, Wahoo will be able to sort you out pretty quickly with either a full replacement or a fix-it kit (I think these days they are mostly just sending you a new trainer). Hi DCR, Tried sufferfest but novality wore off on me. In general, the vast majority of these videos are shot on a bike, with special GoPro camera setups and then post-processed to make them pop a bit more. Yup, that’s a good option. Saris & Elite have it on all their trainers, full stop. FulGaz just doesn’t work for me, seems less immersive despite being more realistic and the workout programs are limited. There are other streaming devices like Roku, fire tv stick that support airplay but I have chromecast. Reading the comments, all of them of have big fans. My software maker, Drake I will likely need to add Parallels & Windows 7 OS, preferably 64-bit to this Macbook Air. Depending on which platform you’re on, that’ll be both ANT+ & Bluetooth Smart. I am not a die hard user of any system. Not ideal, but good! At least Rouvy gives a color code. Honestly, right now with technical issues, I’d skip CT altogether and go straight to Wahoo. Did you know that you can run zwift on a raspberry pi? I am getting my first smart trainer soon. Disponible sur. We’ll add a new feature within a few days allowing people to ride and run indoor just with HR strap. “Best” is relative. That would create a power ramp. I taped mine to my desk. But, sometimes when Mother Nature turns on me and it is extremely hot and humid or a severe thunderstorm pops up I ride inside on my Mag Trainer or in the Spin studio at LifeTime Fitness. I duplicated what he did. The other thing is that the time of day didn’t really match. The app shows all your power/HR/cadence/etc metrics, and even will show gearing for certain smart bikes. However, before we start that, we gotta get the app installed. Check out the download rank history for Tacx Desktop app in United States. I just tipped my toes into indoor cycling, I honestly didn’t realize there was more than Zwift until some weeks ago . And actually, they’ve got two different apps. That’s why there’s 10 other sections to read. Up top in the right it’ll notify you of people entering the event. The downside to the Peloton Digital App compared to the bike is the lack of showing the current targets for the workout, as well as some of the leaderboard bits. But when you take a route like the Stelvio and only toss 20-30 people on there, it feels empty. I’ve tried RGT a couple of times and really like it, the physics are better than zwift, esp the braking and the UI is a lot cleaner but the routes are limited and there are few “rolling” options. The FB page is absolutely lit up with complaints. 1) Drop all preconceptions, rules, zones, tables, weekly plan logic, etc. Zwift has been great fun over the last few months for racing and training. Click above for all the details. C) As for Tacx L/R data, that could absolutely be published via the standard ANT+ power data channel data. But because I prefer riding outside, the simulators and virtual apps held little interest for me. You need to play $12 per device to cast your screen to a chromecast? That one sentence alone has piles and piles of pieces written about it. A big difference with our legacy software is that it’s now subscription-based. Non-pro tip: These functions in total ultimately can provide a near-coach-like experience for people trying to plan out and execute their training and racing. I’ve learned to rethink it and that’s made it much more approachable. The Edge of Performance with NTT. Generally speaking, as long as you’re following the on-screen bits you’re good. The only ‘clear’ ones are costs, tryout time, platforms and stuff like that. The app is simple and easy to use, and freely available from the App or Play store. Ok the GUI is a bit dated, but all the functionality is there. I occasionally do both group rides and races, though as you’ll quickly learn in Zwift – it’s rarely about trying to win, and more about getting a good workout that keeps you driving forward. I also use Peloton weekly, but on a Peloton Bike, which is much more data-laden (and then better to me), than the Peloton app. And in the case of PerfPro, it’s got beastly huge studio functionality (and a gazillion other features). e.g., use the class to motivate effort, but then just rack the miles up? 7 + 3 = * Email. I’ll be trialling a few over the coming weeks. I don’t know if this thing runs OK on a “real” PC but I’m pretty discouraged. These could be instructor-led, or they could just be structured workouts atop pretty scenic ride videos: If you crack one open you’ll see the exact structure of the workout: You can pair a power meter or a heart rate  strap here, but not other sensor types like a smart trainer or cadence sensor, which is honestly a bit weird since they already have that code based in the other app. Has anyone had this issue? But it doesn’t have to be an expensive one. Get Deal. I’ve been using Rouvy and honestly hadn’t noticed the structured workouts. However, they do also have some 12-week training programs in the app as well. With sufferfest I am set at the same ftp which using their 4DP comes out at pretty much the same as TR but the workouts stretch me to the limits but I can finish the rides feeling I have achieved instead of failed. For someone who has raced in USA Cycling Club Racing the realism is enough to keep a retired racer going. Glad to see, I am not alone. I didn’t have a series of screenshots for that, because…umm…I was trying not to die. Sad to see VirtuGo never made it. A big part missing from these reviews is the community, I use social media like almost most people today and the sense of commaraderie and community is greater there than any other platform. As a bit of Trivia. If we could have a 3D reality or even better, that would be great! Those kind of workouts have a place and I’ll check out Rouvy’s. 85% OFF at Tacx is in the control of you. This ended up adding about 10 minutes onto my workout. Programs are essentially a collection of workouts arranged by days, for multiple weeks laid out. Any thoughts on this or instructions on how to do workouts in rouvy using level mode? (Assuming your only device was an apple tv and an iphone, would the picture in picture function work?). It’s also the only app on this list that dynamically adjusts the workouts in real-time based on your progress through it. You’ll see others riding around you, though larger group rides and races aren’t always shown to prevent the game from being visually overloading (primarily on your computer’s graphics processor). Not sure if STAC would follow into the “finicky combination” side or “significant trainer inaccuracy”. Do some have the following extra thing? I’d say most of these are pretty basic in composition and utility. Rouvy – I want to like it and it has incredible potential BUT the stated speed on the app and my Garmin are way off. My coach puts a structured workout into TP, and it shows up that day for me to do in Zwift without me doing a thing. I’ll probably cancel my Zwift subscription this month and switch to RGT for the rainy days. Now, the one caveat I’ve got is that this was the *only* app during my review period to crash mid-ride. Starting with their core offering, Routes, you’ve got a pile of categories of different routes to pick from. Finally there’s the Workout tab, which shows structured workouts. Probably the main feature I enjoy with Zwift is the ability to have the trainer in ERG mode and adjust target power a few percent by pressing +/-. I can’t argue with the results I’ve reached with Xert. I would also considering subscribing to this app in the winter. Still, I wonder how many people don’t realize large parts of the platform are buried in the app, or on the secondary app they might not even have installed. And the same is true for challenges and other features within the Training Room section. But Summer is coming and the road where your profile pic was taken is 3km from my house so it’s time to get back out there. There must be something in this 4DP. Send it to ‘support@rouvy.com’ as well! See, the day before I had done two hard interval workouts…one of them finishing up at midnight…followed by only a handful of hours of sleep. it would be great if you could add a table with monthly / annual cost for each app – while clearly not the key element in the decision, I think it would be a good add-on You probably stumbled upon here looking for a review of a sports gadget. great write-up as always. – Rouvy It takes no sweat to get your favorites at lower prices. Pretty comprehensive! Its a mind-boggling and rapidly developing environment that could benefit from community input. You can change settings at any time as as you see fit :). I could get to the menu, but it wouldn’t recognize it. It is $12 per device so if I wanted to setup on my MacBook, iPad, and Android phone the total would be a total $36. Good point, it’s got crazy in the last week. Hi Ray. they just work and have all the functionality and connections we’ve come to expect) Apps? It’s probably one of those things you don’t notice until you have the bike and try to go back to the Peloton app, but still. Required fields are marked.If you would like a profile picture, simply register at Gravatar, which works here on DCR and across the web. Plus Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable 12.0.30501. Call for help: It wouldn’t let me select it for any of the pile I tried.” I wanted to set up my smart trainer for my wife with a Peloton like spin class. Not even TrainingPeaks. However, it’s also something that I suspect most cyclists here would actually find pretty engaging once you get into it, especially the power zone workouts. All excellent. Very frustrating, Is anyone else seeing these issues? Can’t you cast from Chrome on a mac? As someone who uses the Sufferfest, the online community that mostly congregates on FB, is one of the most valuable and supportive aspects of the app. If I com off a 12% decline and doing 50 mph, my speed does not dramatically slow down in real life…I am 230 pounds and speed reduction can take time. I ride indoors to get fitter and faster to ride outdoors, and for that I need a good training plan and that’s where I think The Sufferfest wins hands down. While the 4DP test is rather daunting the whole thing takes about 30 minutes. But I understand that you have to pay the “Permium HD” subscription (13.99€/mo instead of 9.99€/mo) to have access to 1080p videos, otherwise it’s limited to 720p (see attached file) !!! Give the Rouvy Video Editor a try! Four, to be precise. They’ve also done a fair bit of work behind the scenes with the Wahoo KICKR CLIMB to really nail that experience. That’s a much better solution for teams or larger groups of people. I outlined more of it here. Peloton digital app is meh without the bike personally (used to have one) but the app overall with meditation, running, yoga, bootcamp, dancing (most recent), etc are pretty hard to beat for $12.99 a month. But the majority of them I do enjoy quite a bit, and the workouts go by exceptionally fast in comparison to most other platforms. But I wanna thanks Ray because I was almost giving up to try Kinomap because they didn’t have a desktop version and all my bike sensor being ANT+ until I remembered Ray´s tip on the 4iii that is a BT bridge besides HR! Seems like you have a decent sampling to work with (thousands of entries). – TrainerRoad Again, more resources. If you have workouts in MRC format (perhaps a coach is sending them to you), it’s second to none. Thanks for your website – It is starting to get my go to when I have a kit related question. For example, if someone has a spouse on a second trainer riding at the same time, which of these apps would support that (perhaps I missed, and sorry if I did). Training software to be precise. If you buy a full subscription, you get access to both. Took me a couple of tries to get it setup, eventually I had to run it with my laptop on the ground next to my Stages power meter and view the ride through an external monitor. In the case of Rouvy, they’ve spent a lot of time on their augmented reality bits, with the overlays and all. ‎Read reviews, compare customer ratings, see screenshots and learn more about Tacx Desktop app. So if you did find it useful – hit up the links on the sidebar (such as Amazon) or consider becoming a DCR Subscriber. Versus inside the app in the support menu you’ll find it listing 1080p: In any case, beyond that, the app works just fine. These days though, they divested their hardware business last fall, and now focus exclusively on software. Other outdoor workouts that I do will sync to TP from my Karoo 2 or ELEMNT Roam used in conjunction with my Favero Power Meter and a chest strap or from the watch. We also recommend downloading the route to give the best possible experience. FWIW I would include PerfPro because it is awesome for riding with a couple of people in the same room, and the home version is super-affordable. For some odd reason they split out the non-live events into a separate page that you don’t realize is there till you go into the search panel, then you’ll see the other four sections. Right now a Saris H3 is available but would you know if the Tacx program/protocol is readily compatible with the Saris H3?? We now know what the problem is and the update has been uploaded to the Microsoft store. Mac. Unfortunately with the issue on the gradient kick that is not something I’ve heard of happening. In my opinion, this platform is way better than some others like Bkool and FulGaz. However, as soon as I start the interval you’ll see the actual duration has been cut to 18 seconds. RGT doesn’t quite have the volume to need to automate the ingest of these functions, so e-mail still works. It can take some time for processing and approval but with the tutorials available we hope you can soon see your ride on Rouvy! I just watch Netflix or YouTube on trainer. @ lufbra88. I have a dumb e-motion roller, appletv 4, bike with Powermeter crankset (ant+), garmin speed sensor (ant+) and viiiiva 4iiii chest strap (bluetooth bridge for the ant+ devices). But it doesn’t at this point know my body state. or is there any other app or workarounds ? Thanks! The whole piece worked great, plus, there was music timed to it as well for the entire workout. The classes are identical and the same. And for the most part, Zwift does an exceptionally good job at both driving and supporting the community, as well as offering numerous ways to keep yourself busy. Wahoo doesn’t have it on any (just ANT+ FE-C). You can connect your TrainingPeaks to Rouvy Workouts and our software will automatically pull in your workout of the day under the ‘training peaks’ tab on the mobile or windows app. Maybe that’s why they call it 4K? So if you happen to know any pro tax prep software ompatible w/ OS 10 and/or, you could.. As you go up climbs, it’ll change the resistance accordingly. Things stretch out, rinse, repeat. Pour paramétrer le home trainer TACX i-Genius vous devrez installer le logiciel Tacx Training Software sur votre ordinateur. But wait, are you a female and feel like these things might not apply to you? However in practice, that shouldn’t matter (Wahoo/NEO missing it). Are you willing to review or test beta products? Heck, even runners can plod along in Zwift. And the new track is pretty cool. INSTALL. Tacx: all NEO and Flux models Meaning, the vast majority of workouts are ‘go hard’, with very few focused on recovery rides. I live in the north Midwest cold yet to get out on the bike is a daily goal and when I can not its the indoor ride thinking of spring. I have recently moved from Zwift to Peloton and I wish I’d done it years ago. All in, there are 8 different worlds you can choose. $179. other companies’ offerings. The Sufferfest’s training plans are very impressive in that the output indicated is adjusted automatically for the plan so there are recovery elements mixed in there. Phew, I made it. Each one of these are coached workouts that are recorded with video and synchronized to a structured training. I’ve came from zwift and sufferfest and now getting to see rouvy, but in workouts the erg mode seems to vary a huge amount. But realistically, I probably could have hit that interval set…if I had more than 3-4 hrs of sleep the night before and hadn’t been doing 1-2 trainer workouts a day for the last 7-10 days doing app testing. At each of 4 sections of the 4DP my friend recorded the Watts, RPM and Heart Rate while I pedaled on and recovered between segments. As with Rouvy and Kinomap, there is the occasional case where your speed is faster or slower than the filmed recording speed, so you might see quirks there – but I find that tends to be somewhat more rare here than the other apps. Rouvy told me to clear the cache in the Android app and to delete files in Windows per . anyone here with experience on rouvy workouts? I find it weird that they’ve not fixed this since it’s been an issue for years. I mean, even Zwift, TrainerRoad, and others have that. In fact, I pay these companies as part of my monthly subscriptions, just like you. If I have them all set to share with each other I get duplicate rides in both Garmin and Strava. And I suspect some app owners might be waiting for a bigger fish to come along and buy them out. I want the flexibility of just riding my video when I want and without having to persuade 4 other people to join me. No Smart trainer, no Wahoo kicker just an old school Mag Trainer without an ANT + or anything. There are a couple caveats. You can however pair a heart rate strap/sensor to the Peloton tablet app without issue (any Bluetooth Smart HR device). The ‘just works’ factor is usually pretty high, and the graphics using the Apple TV 4K version are more than fine for me (note: even if you don’t have a 4K TV, get the 4K variant for the extra $20, it’s got substantially more graphical power inside). Much of the app isn’t translated well (if at all). The final reason they’ve got a cult-like following is their weekly ‘Ask a Cycling Coach’ podcast where they dive into all the nuances of training and racing with questions from users, and overwhelmingly deep dives into nuanced cycling topic areas. My own ride data uploaded OK, but I don’t like the interface as much as Rouvy. What’s missing on Rouvy with the Kickr Snap ? It just works so well and the videos, interface and user experience are among the best I’ve seen. Is it also easy to adjust power. Go check that out, it’s just as detailed as this post, except it’s about trainers instead of apps. Sharing can also be achieved, IF the trainer apps have chromecast sharing built in. from other platforms. Partially because CT is overloaded/backlogged from a CS standpoint, and partially because they wouldn’t be able to fix your problem anyway (it’d be a Wahoo CS issue). Tacx…free go after getting the Tacx Neo 2T (after your review ;-)). A damn good one at that. iOS. I just wanted to point out that you can sort the videos by Duration, Intensity, TSS, Workout Focus, and Category. The workouts are way better than just hopping on the bike, and the music is fun. Use Backcountry.com or Competitive Cyclist with either the coupon code DCRAINMAKER for first time users saving 15% on applicable products. Apple TV can be finicky with the number of devices it allows to connect, which may be why you’re seeing issues with the remote and when addressing the settings. Two of my favorites are newer ones actually, using on-board cameras from major pro races. From the singular workouts all the way up to training plans that can be tweaked on the fly to deal with life events, the depth of what they have as a platform might be hard to see until you spend time with it. Outside the app on the support site it just says “Premium Videos”. They are responsive, but haven’t been able to address this problem in Windows 10. I see bloggers mentionning it sometime…. But both Trainer and Zwift are incredibly accurate and smooth. My smartbike is positioned in front of a 55 inch TV driven by mac/win/androidTV/… The workout progress and key metrics should be visible as a transparent overlay or in a minimal dock. Yet people mostly demand it. The smart electronics of the NEO 2T Smart also allow you to train stand alone, without any software connections. Yeah, I know, stupid. RGT as an app allows you to ride and race against other competitors in virtual worlds that mirror real life locales. And I WOULD pay the extra few bucks for 4K (but I don’t feel like I should have to pay it for 1080p). I’ve used and pay for Xert for years, so I’m pretty familiar with how things work on the whole regardless of the new interface, but just figured I’d mention that to reduce confusion here until this is rolled out.]. Having tried several options, I am fullt devoted to Sufferfest. Additionally, the online (Facebook) group is simply awesome. One might also suggest OneLap – though given my readership here is 99.9% not in China, and that platform is 99.9% catered to the Chinese market (albeit with some rough translations for some parts in English). For those who don’t already know, RGT Premium is free now. anyone aware of a rouvy discount code? When it comes to sensors, the app supports everything out there that you’re likely to use, from power meters to smart trainers, and heart rate straps too. I did also find that swiping between the 3D and Video view would result in some weird lag/speeding up. Well timed. If that’s the case (but certainly not saying my choices aren’t good for women), and you just want to see a different gear junkies “picks”, check out The Girl’s 2018 Gear Guide too. I verified that once the app was killed this way that the blue light on my trainer went off. Note that you can still go back into the Bkool Indoor app and do structured workouts there though (sans-video) with a smart trainer/cadence sensor: Finally, the last piece of the Bkool puzzle is their Video Editor, which allows you to upload your own videos to the platform.

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